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By: Tom Scott

Tom Scott — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:18:25 +0000

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By: Steve Bowbrick

Steve Bowbrick — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:49:31 +0000

JackP, I actually think your hardline approach is totally justified but I’d also note that the BBC people presenting the trial felt that running the trial even with a non-optimal, non-compliant implementation would yield good learning that could be applied in a production version later (and they were very conscious af accessibility issues). Where I disagree with your analysis is in the adherence to what are essentially ten year-old orthodoxies like always loading linked pages into the same window and so on. Surel the web is mature enough and rich enough now to at least contemplate useful innovations like in-line rendering etc. As a 45 year-old I can confirm that a link that takes me away from the current page is essentially ‘Goodbye’ for a man with a memory like mine!

By: Steve Bowbrick

Steve Bowbrick — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:43:35 +0000

Bill, you ask many good questions about the detail of metadata etc. I don’t have answers for any of them but I’ve met people here who seem todo nothing but worry about metadata, rights etc. so I hope that one or more of them might chip in here and answer your questions…

By: Steve Bowbrick

Steve Bowbrick — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:38:58 +0000

Well Scot, I think that’s a total red herring. Surely many of the platforms the BBC supports are (and will be) 100% proprietary (Virgin’s set-top boxes, Nokia’s N96, Sky’s satellite set-up etc. etc.). Providing content that plays out in closed environments is fine provided the source content is open and accessible by other (open) means, if you ask me! Besides: an iTunes plugin would be totally awesome. Imagine clicking a Bartok track and getting a swathe of fascinating historic context, pics, Hungarian history, biogs etc. etc. right there in iTunes or on your iPod!

By: Scot

Scot — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:55:21 +0000

“Wouldn’t it be cool if iTunes could wrap your music in all the rich metadata”

Yes, but it wouldn’t be very open, would it? iTunes is a fairly proprietary thing.

By: JackP

JackP — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:23:17 +0000

Well hello there Steve, from a “standards hardliner”.

Firstly, I’d just like to say that I’m right behind the idea of the BBC looking to “open its bank of content, code and talent” to the world at large. I also agree with your judgement that telling us who you’re meeting is better than nothing, and I’m looking forward to reading more of your blog.

However, I would posit (well, as a standards zealot, I am no doubt contactually obliged to) that there is generally a very good reason for adhering to standards: the content is more accessible and more usable to more people, is better understood by bots, browsers, assistive technology and so on. However, I am totally behind the idea of including links to relevant items in news stories, I just think the mechanism used was wrong.

But enough of these arguments which you’ve already read anyway: I’ll just look forward to reading more of what you’re up to!

By: Bill Lee

Bill Lee — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:12:28 +0000

If not rights, what about the issues of rights, and those around the world?

Music rights are different around the world, and some countries have quotas on local content such as Canada with their MAPL (Music, Artist, Producer, Lyrics) points for local content.

What are the metatags for BBC content(s)? Can we use them in more narrow national contexts such as all the stuff from Ghana rather than Kenya this week?

What about the 1920s stuff? How much is now public domain and should be featured?

If sound or sound track are there transcripts, better yet coded by linguists for meaning and later analysis by labeling it?

Can we say that you lowered your voice when you said the word “confidentiality” and so on?